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Comments discussing the possible death of the Health-Care Bill...

but it's not like there's going to be a surrender announcement where the Democrats stack their 2,000+ page bills and march off the field.
  -  Ace

Conservatives, what is good in life?

To drive their legislation before you, and hear the lamentations of their nutroots

- Comment by Sam



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On the twelfth day of Christmas, my FFL got for me

twelve tons of .22
eleven Browning blueprints
ten Les Baers (custom)
nine wonder nines
eight Mosin-Nagants
seven Garand clips
six SMLE Enfields
five M1A's
four Hand Ejectors
three bayonets
two silhouettes
and a full-auto Thompson sub gun.

- JB at Tam's Place




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Dear Sir,

I am Barack Obama the only son of late former Director of Economics, Chief Barack H. Obama of Kenya diamond and mining corporation. I must confess my agitation is real, and my words are my bond in this proposal. My late father diverted this fund acquired from the over influencing of price of sales/purchasing of raw materials., now he deposited the money with the US DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY BY FIXED DEPOSIT FORM, where I am residing under political asylum with my young daughters who are 11 and 8 years old. Now the despression in my country is overwith the help of SEIU soldiers, the present government of the US has revoked the passport of all officers who served under the former regime and now ask countries to expel such person at the same time, freeze their account and confiscate their assets, it is on this note that I am contacting you, all I needed from you is to furnish me with your bank particulars:

1) Bank name
2) Account name
3) Account number
4) Bank address, telephone and fax numbers to enable me transfer this money in your private bank account, the said amount is nine Trillion United States Dollars (US$9.000.000.000.000.00).

 - posted by AmishDude on a thread on Ace

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In ref to the post below, A comment on Hot Air responding to a post by Allah.

Imagine for a moment that tomorrow talk radio was just suddenly shut down. Fox news was suddenly off the air. No explanation given. No acknowledgment from anywhere on the other networks that anything was wrong.
You try to log onto the internet, but it's unusually slow and whenever you try to log onto HotAir, Drudge or any other trusted news site or blog, you get an error.
So, you turn on the MSN. You try to search all the networks for what has gone wrong with the internet and talk radio. The only news you find are glowing reports of Obama. His poll numbers have skyrocketed.
He's fixed health care. He's fixed our economy. He's also about to unite the world with ObamaLove, baby. It's all beautiful.
In fact, so many new and exciting things have changed as a result of ObamaCare, ObamaLove and ObamaPeace, that all citizens will be participating in the mandated ObamaEducation program at the local ObamaRe-education Center!
The MSN is raving about the new modern ObamaRe-education centers! Chris Matthews says he's got a thrill up his other leg! You watch live news feeds of glorious crowds waving ObamaFlags and fainting at his image! Then suddenly, there is a live breaking news feed of Rush and Hannity with tears in their eyes. The images are blurry but the announcer says it is them. They are saying how wonderful Obama is, they confess their past greed and ask all to forgive them!
Then, a knock on your door and you answer it. Three armed men are standing at your door in a uniform you've never seen. One says "Good morning, We're part of the new Obama Civilian Core and we're here to accompany you to the ObamaRe-education Center. Standing room only on the environmentally friendly GM ObamaCattle Car so please hurry along!"
Could never happen, right?
Just paranoia.

-by JellyToast

...and from Theo this comment:






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I think that Universal Franchise is ultimately a great idea, except that it has utterly failed every time it has been tried in history. I am about ready to toss it on the dustheap with Communism and Socialism. - Phelps on Geek with a .45

Subject: MONTANA HOSPITALITY!!

DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

Star 100.7 Radio Station was doing one of their "is anyone listening who" bits this morning. The first one was, "Ever have a celebrity pull the 'do you know who I am' routine?"

A lady called in and said that when she was visiting her cattle rancher Uncle in Billings, MT a few years ago, they went to dinner at a restaurant that does not take reservations. The wait was about 45 minutes. Lots of other rancher types and their spouses were already waiting.

In comes Ted Turner and Jane Fonda. They want a table. The hostess says they'll have to wait about 45 minutes. Jane Fonda asks if she knows who she is? "Yes, but you'll still have to wait 45 minutes." Then Jane says, "Is the manager in?"

The manager comes out, "May I help you?" "Do you know who I am?", ask both Jane and Ted. "Yes, but these folks have all been waiting already and I can't put you in ahead of them."

Then Ted asks to speak to the owner. The owner comes out. Jane again asks, "do you know who I am?"

The owner says "Yes, I do.... Do you know who I am? I am the owner of this restaurant and a Vietnam Veteran. Not only will you not get a table ahead of all of my friends and neighbors here, but you also will not be eating in my restaurant tonight or any other night. Good bye."

Only in America, what a great country!

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Unfortunately Snopes (not a reliable source when it comes to moonbats) says this exchange was false.  Hanoi Jane and Turner were at the restaurant and did not eat...altho the reason was given as the long wait, not the exchange above. 


Our kids took me out for ice cream after a rainy Father's Day cookout. In honor of the 44th President of the United States, Baskin-Robbins Ice Cream had a new flavor: "Barocky Road." Barocky Road is a blend of half vanilla, half chocolate, and surrounded by nuts and flakes. The vanilla portion of the mix is not openly advertised and was denied as an ingredient when I asked. The nuts and flakes are all very bitter and hard to swallow. The cost is $100.00 per scoop. When we purchased it was presented in a large beautiful waffle cone, but then the ice cream was taken away and given to the person in line behind me. I was left with an empty wallet and no change, holding an empty cone with no hope of getting any ice cream. Was I stimulated? - sickinmass

So I SEE, suddenly it is no longer patriotic to dissent? Yep that's only when a republican is in office.
I'm amazed that the saner leftists are not concerned with how fast and how little debate there is on these trillion dollar bills. Anyone remember the 14 month RUSH TO WAR?
What about the HOWLING over a 400 billion dollar deficit? Suddenly a 2000 billion dollar deficit is okey dokey?
Oh wait...remember when unemployment was at 4.5% but there were grave worries for the next four years? Now unemployment DOUBLE at 9.5% this is encouraging for the economy?
To be liberal is to be either a hypocrite or mentally ill.

- Jukinj3


OMG, Great van Susteran says that [Ahmadinejad], whatever, prez of I ran, stole BO's campaign slogan "yes we can".

Of course, the phrase in Farsi sounds like 20 Great Danes gathered around a humidifier, trying to cough up a peanut butter sandwich.


 - Circa (Insert Day Here) on Ace


I don't understand all the details about the Civil War, but I think reasonable people can agree that we had no business going over there, and should have kept our troops at home.

 - Posted by: Typical Undergraduate

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Some people say that the Republic died when "bread and games" became normal for the Roman mob.

However, only a small minority of Roman citizens lived in the city of Rome and could have access to such things (for most citizens Rome was not a Welfare State - and did not become so even under the Empire).

In politics the Roman mob were a terrible problem (selling their votes to those who offered them most benefits - Sulla was right that this perversion would undermine the Republic) buy they were not most Romans - the Republic still lived.

It really died when the private ownership and training with arms was banned - by the first Emperor.

Paul Marks @ Samisdata


The funny thing is, all these assholes are talking about "We won" and yadda yadda, and if it wasn't for the adults paying the bills, not one of them could make it a week. I never met a liberal who could find his ass with a geiger counter if shit was radioactive. - Og on Tam's Site


 "You know, I wanted to sit on a jury once and I was taken off the jury. And the judge said to me, 'Can, you know, can you tell the truth and be fair?' And I said, 'That's what journalists do.' And everybody in the courtroom laughed. It was the most hurtful moment I think I've ever had."


 - Diane Sawyer on Thursday's edition of Good Morning America

Obama's Statement on North Korea Rocket Launching

Compared to this idiot, I'm starting to miss the days of clear eyed realism and muscular military posture of Jimmy Carter. - DrewM on Ace
THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES

It's high time to stop the media fawning over our emperor like arrogant President.
The media has covered for this false prophet long enough.
The truth is as follows:

1. Obama rammed through a trillion dollar 'stimulus' bill with little or no debate.
2. Obama's 'stimulus' bill is loaded with earmarks and pork and crushing regulation.
3. Obama isn't the slightest bit serious about deficit reduction.
4. Obama has appointed a guy to head the treasury who didn't pay his taxes.
5. Obama has attempted to appoint three other cabinet members who didn't pay taxes.
6. Obama's attorney general pardoned terrorists and a millionaire fugitive.
7. Obama hasn't a clue how to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear bomb.
8. Obama's 'tax cuts' for people who don't pay taxes are welfare checks.
9. Obama is a divider and pits class against class and race against race.
10. Obama did nothing in his years in the Senate to reform Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.
11. Obama inspires people not to help themselves but rather to depend on him.
12. Obama has spread panic and fear by preaching doom and gloom.
13. Obama opposed the surge in Iraq.
14. Obama, when he worked for ACORN, pushed banks into making bad loans.
15. Obama has promised to bankrupt the coal industry.
16. Obama hasn't shown serious interest in drilling for new oil.
17. Obama appeals to people's basest emotions to punish the rich.
18. Obama's inauguration was the most expensive in history.
19. Obama can't cite specifically the supposed Bush 'deregulation' he blames.
20. Obama isn't serious about bipartisanship and rams his plans through Congress.
21. Obama has proposed raising taxes in a recession to crush achievers and job creators.
22. Obama is working to nationalize the banks.
23. Obama is working to nationalize health insurance companies.
24. Obama is driven by anger and rage at businesses.
25. Obama used cocaine in the past.
26. Obama worked hard to get Blagoyevich elected twice.
27. Obama is on the verge of releasing terrorists staying at Gitmo.
28. Obama has called the Saudi King 'courageous'.
29. Obama is pushing for the end to secret ballots in union elections.
30. Obama is allowing Dick Durbin to impose censorship through 'diversity' regs.
31. Obama, despite pledging not to do so, has numerous lobbyists in his staff.
32. Obama has strong associations with Rashid Khalidi, the former PLO spokesman.
33. Obama's proposed budget is the largest in US history.
34. Obama proposes raising capital gains taxes which will crush business.
35. Obama's cap and trade plan amounts to further crushing taxation on job creators.
36. Obama has endeavored to politicize the census.
37. Obama policies will cheat minorities because they will damage the economy.
38. Obama resisted John McCain's attempt to reform Fannie and Freddie in 2005.
39. Obama did nothing in the Senate to prevent the current crisis.
40. Obama has created a cult of personality about himself.
41. Obama opposes missile defense despite Iran and North Korea having missiles.
42. Obama rarely uses specifics but showers us frequently with rhetoric.
43. Obama has rammed through burdensome regulatory changes to HIPAA.
44. Obama has rammed through poorly drafted changes to COBRA.
45. Obama isn't serious about promoting nuclear power.
46. Obama isn't serious about reducing dependence on foreign oil.
47. Obama attempted to humiliate the private citizen Joe the Plumber.
48. Obama rewards failure in his policies and bailout proposals.
49. Obama favors raising gas prices and gas taxes.
50. Obama seeks to become the most powerful US President in history.

It's high time therefore for the media to start seeing this guy for who he is and to stop covering for him. He is a false hope. He is not entitled to a pass merely because he is black. It is not rhetoric but substance that matters. Martin Luther King would not have wanted the first black President to be coddled merely because he is black. If we are to get to a color blind society, both blacks and whites must be judged equally on substance.
Enough fawning and slobbering over him. The truth is our emperor has no clothes.

Thanx to another guy a work who shall remain nameless

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NBC-viewers get more balanced and accurate news from Jay Leno than from NBC News/MSNBC. Sad, but true.

- AGR responding to this thread on ACE.

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So consider this, my fellows in arms: On Tuesday, the Left - armed with the most attractive, eloquent, young, hip, and charismatic candidate I have seen with my adult eyes, a candidate shielded by a media so overtly that it can never be such a shield again, who appeared after eight years of a historically unpopular President, in the midst of two undefended wars and at the time of the worst financial crisis since the Depression and whose praises were sung by every movie, television, and musical icon without pause or challenge for 20 months ... who ran against the oldest nominee in the country's history, against a campaign rent with internal disarray and determined not to attack in the one area where attack could have succeeded, and who was out-spent no less than seven-to-one in a cycle where not a single debate question was unfavorable to his opponent - that historic victory, that perfect storm of opportunity ...

Yielded a result of 53 percent.

- Capt Morgan

I think the Democrats privately don't really believe that there have yet been vast structural changes, so they will ensure they occur: get rid of talk radio via the fairness doctrine; trials and hearings for former Bush officials; open borders and amnesty or 'earned citizenship,' and no more secret ballots for union members. All of that could help to ensure lasting Democratic majorities-and I think we will see it all come to pass.

-VDH

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So Obama won. It's not the end of the world. Everybody chill out.

1) It's hardly a popular vote blowout. McCain kept it close in a tough anti-republican climate, and there's a still a significant proportion of the population that's with us, nearly 50%, in fact.

2) If Barack does win, he do so only by pretending to be a centrist and a tax-cutter. And that lie is going to be exposed riki-tik. By 2010, the entire country will know just how liberal Obama is, and the pendulum will swing. It'll be up to us to see that it swings far enough.

3) It's important to remember that we're conservatives, not liberals, or "progressives" or whatever they're calling themselves this week.

Politics isn't our life, and if we lose an election cycle, we're still going to be happier as a group then they will ever be, even after they've won this one.

Like they always do, hardcore liberal voters have placed all their hopes and dreams into one, terribly flawed, terribly human basket. And without doubt they will be terribly disappointed, especially when they learn they've still got to pay their own mortgage and buy their own gas.

Their Messiah, ain't one, which will become painfully apparent to them soon enough.

Meanwhile, here on the right, we have low expectations of human nature and even lower expectations of government. It's hard to disappoint us.

And unlike the liberals, all of our hopes and dreams are in exactly the same place they were yesterday, in our family, our friends, our local community, in our work, in our religious faith, and in our country. Those are the great constants, always there for us even when we suffer the greatest of setbacks.

Yep, tough times are ahead, and we're going to have to fight like somsabitches to keep Obama and the Congress from screwing things up too much in the next two years. But, we've been there before, and we've prevailed before.


4) Don't give the fucktards on the left the satisfaction of seeing you all act like a bunch of hysterical schoolgirls. They're the ones who can't take defeat. We can take our lumps, get up, and keep fighting. We should be Happy Warriors. whose proper response to this is mockery, good humor, and hard work. We lost and elction, but we're still right, and they're still wrong.

Anyway, it's time to cowboy up, and get ready for the next go round.

-DelD on Ace

Trainers Comment:  Buy Guns


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Beware liberal jackboots...don't EVEN try coming for our guns during the next super-liberal government. That just might be the final straw. (see Charlton Heston quote)

This is serious stuff folks. We are about to lose it all and become a country our founders could have NEVER imagined!

- Goodeye_Closed on a HotAir thread.

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CNN was just covering Gov. Palin's remarks about Obama palling around with Ayers and the graphic on the screen and the anchor described the event at the Ayers/Dorhn home that started Obama's political career as "attended a political event at Ayers' home in 1995". Then the anchor brought in Bill Schneider who said there was nothing new here (I'd like to ask Schneider if he's read anything that Stanley Kurtz has written on the subject) and then tut tutted about a charge of "consorting with terrorists".

If they were any deeper in the tank, they'd get sucked into the undergravel filter.

Ronnie Schreiber on Instapundit

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I guess it's all over.

1776-2008.

It was a nice run.

-OldLyme - commenting on a thread discussing venal politicians.

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The stupid is strong in this one. - RacerX on LGF

Under the coming Palin-Rove police state, you will witness the plans now underway to bring Iraqi troops to patrol the streets of our nation.
The only Northern liberal Democratic presidential candidates since 1964 have been Humphrey, McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis and Kerry.

Comparing how they did in Gallup polling in July versus the eventual electoral result:

- Mondale and McGovern suffered swings toward the Republicans of 2% and 4% respectively, which in their cases didn't matter much because they started and stayed a devastating 20% or so behind

- In the closer elections Humphrey (1968) suffered a July-November swing to the Republicans of 6%, Dukakis (1988) 16%, Kerry (2004) 9.5%.

In each case in the fall the Northern liberal's support fell off sharply, when the public found out more about them and the policies they supported.

As a Northern liberal (and he's a very orthodox, rather left of center one at that) this 40-year history suggests that Obama would need to have a solid 10% lead in the polls now just to have an even chance in November, quite apart from any racial considerations (which if they materialize on polling day may well cut both ways). - Nomenklatura on Belmont Club
Baroness Sarah Ludford MEP has a latter in today's FT condemning, "the infuriatingly stupid claim by French foreign minister Bernard Kouchner that" he did not understand the workings of EU institutions. She put it on a par with the "boast during the referendum campaign by Ireland's EU Commissioner Charlie McCreevey and premier Brian Cowen that they had not read the Lisbon treaty".

She says these are attempts "to pose as populist 'one of the boys' or an admission that they are not fit to occupy [their] positions". She goes onto give a breakdown of the EU's workings in around ten lines, suggesting she may be right in her assertion that people in power across Europe, "ought to do better than my five-minute effort", when trying to understand the institutions they supposedly govern.

Here is what she said:

The European Union consists of 27 states which share some powers in a bid to deliver a secure, just, prosperous and sustainable future for their 500m citizens, and stability and progress in the world. The European Commission, consisting of former national politicians, draws up proposals for laws and helps implement and enforce them. Those laws are decided by MEPs, who are directly elected to the European parliament every five years, jointly with ministers of national governments comprising the Council. The latter also makes foreign and other policy decisions. National MPs scrutinise or call to account the activities of their governments in the Council. The European Court of Justice rules on the interpretation and claims of breach of EU law


The following is from commenter Dewi_Sant

Here are my ten lines...

Blackmail
Coercion
Fraud
Duress
Intimidation
Squeeze
Pressure
Extort
Bribe
Payoff
"Free speech includes not only the inoffensive but the irritating, the contentious, the eccentric, the heretical, the unwelcome and the provocative provided it does not tend to provoke violence. Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth having."

- JMagi quoting British Lord Justice Sedley, Speaking on the Redmond-Bate case of 1999

What Happened, Britain?
In more Cosmic terms, around 1992 an answer was offered for the Fermi Paradox concerning intelligent life in the universe. Where's Everybody? was answered by "They are all out there, in the millions of planets but are all poor 'effing Communists and don't have wherewithall to build a decent radio set." So maybe the ultimate destiny of human beings is knocking over tottering totalitarian regimes and bringing the benefits of Capitalism to the universe. - RWE on the Belmont Club
A science fiction writer on crack couldn't have come up with a 7th Century turd hiding out in the wilds of Pakistan threatening Europe and the Pope over a new Crusade because of some innocuous cartoons published in a small town newspaper. What a silly world we live in.

Comment by Peter in a discussion of Bin Liner's new anti-Mo cartoon tape on Belmont Club

If Spitzer quits or is thrown out, can the proper balance of the nature be restored and New Jersey once again claim the title of America's Worst Governor?

- gridlock2 on hotair

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I believe that American foreign policy is resigned to, and planning for, an Islamic dominated Europe. Note, the US support for an independent Kosovo and Bush lobbying for Turkey's admission into the EU. In doing so,they are hedging a bet on what could be considered a sure thing. Also gives Old Europe a well deserved case of the jitters.

- Dave, Cork, Ireland on No Pasaran

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The gun haters have it backwards. Guns will go away when the need for them goes away. Trying to make the guns go away first just makes things worse. - DrMichaelSBrown in comments on a thread on that awful Huffington Post.